Itaque e contrario moderati aequabilesque habitus, affectiones ususque corporis apti esse ad naturam videntur. Tamen aberramus a proposito, et, ne longius, prorsus, inquam, Piso, si ista mala sunt, placet. Si quae forte-possumus. Nam prius a se poterit quisque discedere quam appetitum earum rerum, quae sibi conducant, amittere.

Quarum ambarum rerum cum medicinam pollicetur, luxuriae licentiam pollicetur. Vestri haec verecundius, illi fortasse constantius. Quid enim mihi potest esse optatius quam cum Catone, omnium virtutum auctore, de virtutibus disputare? Equidem soleo etiam quod uno Graeci, si aliter non possum, idem pluribus verbis exponere. Sin te auctoritas commovebat, nobisne omnibus et Platoni ipsi nescio quem illum anteponebas? Hoc non est positum in nostra actione. Gerendus est mos, modo recte sentiat. Tibi hoc incredibile, quod beatissimum. Cupit enim dícere nihil posse ad beatam vitam deesse sapienti.

Duo enim genera quae erant, fecit tria. Verba tu fingas et ea dicas, quae non sentias? Quod vestri non item.

Propter nos enim illam, non propter eam nosmet ipsos diligimus. Quid affers, cur Thorius, cur Caius Postumius, cur omnium horum magister, Orata, non iucundissime vixerit? Sic vester sapiens magno aliquo emolumento commotus cicuta, si opus erit, dimicabit. Oculorum, inquit Plato, est in nobis sensus acerrimus, quibus sapientiam non cernimus. Atque ab isto capite fluere necesse est omnem rationem bonorum et malorum.

Progredientibus autem aetatibus sensim tardeve potius quasi nosmet ipsos cognoscimus. Atque hoc loco similitudines eas, quibus illi uti solent, dissimillimas proferebas. Vitae autem degendae ratio maxime quidem illis placuit quieta. Rapior illuc, revocat autem Antiochus, nec est praeterea, quem audiamus. Nec enim, dum metuit, iustus est, et certe, si metuere destiterit, non erit;

Sed tamen est aliquid, quod nobis non liceat, liceat illis. Illud mihi a te nimium festinanter dictum videtur, sapientis

omnis esse semper beatos; Ita finis bonorum existit secundum naturam vivere sic affectum, ut optime is affici possit ad naturamque accommodatissime. Si enim non fuit eorum iudicii, nihilo magis hoc non addito illud est iudicatum-.

Tibi hoc incredibile, quod beatissimum. Suam denique cuique naturam esse ad vivendum ducem. Nam ante Aristippus, et ille melius. Quicquid porro animo cernimus, id omne oritur a sensibus;

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Zenonis est, inquam, hoc Stoici. Sed quoniam et advesperascit et mihi ad villam revertendum est, nunc quidem hactenus; Sic enim censent, oportunitatis esse beate vivere. Sed plane dicit quod intellegit. Duo Reges: constructio interrete.

Quasi vero, inquit, perpetua oratio rhetorum solum, non etiam philosophorum sit. Longum est enim ad omnia respondere, quae a te dicta sunt. Aut haec tibi, Torquate, sunt vituperanda aut patrocinium voluptatis repudiandum. Quid ait Aristoteles reliquique Platonis alumni?

Septem autem illi non suo, sed populorum suffragio omnium nominati sunt. Egone quaeris, inquit, quid sentiam? Nam memini etiam quae nolo, oblivisci non possum quae volo. Dic in quovis conventu te omnia facere, ne doleas. Cur tantas regiones barbarorum pedibus obiit, tot maria transmisit? Quid igitur dubitamus in tota eius natura quaerere quid sit effectum?

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