Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus; Qui potest igitur habitare in beata vita summi mali metus? Qua tu etiam inprudens utebare non numquam. Quae cum magnifice primo dici viderentur, considerata minus probabantur. Hanc ergo intuens debet institutum illud quasi signum absolvere. Vestri haec verecundius, illi fortasse constantius. Mihi, inquam, qui te id ipsum rogavi? Nullum inveniri verbum potest quod magis idem declaret Latine, quod Graece, quam declarat voluptas. Illum mallem levares, quo optimum atque humanissimum virum, Cn.

Facillimum id quidem est, inquam. A primo, ut opinor, animantium ortu petitur origo summi boni. Parvi enim primo ortu sic iacent, tamquam omnino sine animo sint. Itaque hic ipse iam pridem est reiectus; Tum Torquatus: Prorsus, inquit, assentior; Bork Ne amores quidem sanctos a sapiente alienos esse arbitrantur. Ait enim se, si uratur, Quam hoc suave! dicturum.

Ergo opifex plus sibi proponet ad formarum quam civis excellens ad factorum pulchritudinem? Si enim ad populum me vocas, eum. Istam voluptatem perpetuam quis potest praestare sapienti? Quaerimus enim finem bonorum. Aliter autem vobis placet. Quae cum essent dicta, finem fecimus et ambulandi et disputandi. Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas. Quam tu ponis in verbis, ego positam in re putabam. Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit.

Nam prius a se poterit quisque discedere quam appetitum earum rerum, quae sibi conducant, amittere. Sed tu istuc dixti bene Latine, parum plane. Pugnant Stoici cum Peripateticis. Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius.

Varietates autem iniurasque fortunae facile veteres philosophorum praeceptis instituta vita superabat. Sin laboramus, quis est, qui alienae modum statuat industriae? Equidem, sed audistine modo de Carneade? Videamus animi partes, quarum est conspectus illustrior; Theophrasti

igitur, inquit, tibi liber ille placet de beata vita? Quod quidem iam fit etiam in Academia. Bork

Quid ait Aristoteles reliquique Platonis alumni? Idemne potest esse dies saepius, qui semel fuit? Ego quoque, inquit, didicerim libentius si quid attuleris, quam te reprehenderim. Atque ab isto capite fluere necesse est omnem rationem bonorum et malorum. Septem autem illi non suo, sed populorum suffragio omnium nominati sunt. In quibus doctissimi illi veteres inesse quiddam caeleste et divinum putaverunt.

A primo, ut opinor, animantium ortu petitur origo summi boni. Servari enim iustitia nisi a forti viro, nisi a sapiente non potest. Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus; Est autem officium, quod ita factum est, ut eius facti probabilis ratio reddi possit. Nemo nostrum istius generis asotos iucunde putat vivere. Nihil acciderat ei, quod nollet, nisi quod anulum, quo delectabatur, in mari abiecerat. Ex rebus enim timiditas, non ex vocabulis nascitur. Easdemne res?

Habent enim et bene longam et satis litigiosam disputationem. Dolere malum est: in crucem qui agitur, beatus esse non potest. Sed vos squalidius, illorum vides quam niteat oratio. Sic enim censent, oportunitatis esse beate vivere. Sedulo, inquam, faciam. Nam si amitti vita beata potest, beata esse non potest. Beatus autem esse in maximarum rerum timore nemo potest. Quae quidem vel cum periculo est quaerenda vobis;

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Videsne, ut haec concinant? Bork Egone non intellego, quid sit don Graece, Latine voluptas? Non quaeritur autem quid naturae tuae consentaneum sit, sed quid disciplinae. Atqui haec patefactio quasi rerum opertarum, cum quid quidque sit aperitur, definitio est. Nam Pyrrho, Aristo, Erillus iam diu abiecti.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Non modo carum sibi quemque, verum etiam vehementer carum esse? Nos paucis ad haec additis finem faciamus aliquando; Nulla erit controversia. Itaque contra est, ac dicitis; Id quaeris, inquam, in quo, utrum respondero, verses te huc atque illuc necesse est. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Restatis igitur vos; Cur igitur, inquam, res tam dissimiles eodem nomine appellas?